Curse

Martin Alvito · Feb 11, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by U Wanna Die

How do they instantly go in after not racing for a year, and get these amazing scores.

Most of us raced out tails off every weekend that the arena was open between last year's festival amd this one's. Not in the expectation of a reward, but just to improve and to try to post the fastest time ever posted.

EDIT: Gotta love guildies (see below post). This is what passes for humor in his book

TheHaxor · Feb 11, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by Martin AlCHEATER

Most of us shot up on steroids every weekend. We knew that would be a handsome reward. We did it because we are greedy a-holes

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awwwww Martin you know we love your greedy ass

Lain Akazukin · Feb 11, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by U Wanna Die

Well i was in a race with one of the top racers and he got a double srb and got a 562,000 so i figured he got lucky and got a high score. So i looked and he had like 3 out of the top 5 and i asked him how did he get double srb and he said that was his first one, then i said how do u get high scores and he responded that he knew when to use skills on the course. I could go the entire course alone and use the skills at the right time, but probably not even get a 470. Seriously isnt it obvious that something is up. How do they instantly go in after not racing for a year, and get these amazing scores.

You might think you are using the skills at the right time but how can you be so sure of that? Unless you manage to keep 100% RRPM the whole race but then you will get something like a 490k+ score. And I actually didn't know about the doubleram trick and didn't use it for my 481k time, so perhaps there's still room for improvement for me.

Polgara Val · Feb 11, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

All this is rather irrelevant now anyway the event is finished and most people will be playing gw 2 this time next year possibly

ObiWan07 · Feb 11, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Anyone of the last years top 100 that got a second rollerbeetle?
I scored top 100 last year and this year but the npc saiz that I already got the award. (from last year sure)

I heard some people got a second one, so is it probably a problem that I scored top 100 with the same char as last year?

Eternal Sword FTW · Feb 12, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Dam...I Know that the top 100 don't cheat and it's fine with me.
But, seriously Yuri needs to give ppl a chance at least Ouija and Roflcopter give others a chance and only put their name on the list 6x max (which is alrdy a lot)~Yuri, I need to say needs to get a life and needs to stop being a *********f**king hog and needs to actually let others geta mini beetle. I ADMIT he/she does have skill but his/her name is on the list like 100x, I think is a TID'bit unfair. ANd +Anet got a whole year to change the rollerbeetle system but they are fat LAZY and decide to stick to the PvP RA/HA system so that even if we get 1st and resign we HAVE DISHONORABLE! Thats just DUMB.

Yayo Goldigger · Feb 12, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15

I don't think it's fair to blame the people on the list. You can't expect them not to race just because they got on it. You get gamer points, lunar tokens, and not to mention it's the best part of the event =D

Navaros · Feb 12, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Most of us raced out tails off every weekend that the arena was open between last year's festival amd this one's. Not in the expectation of a reward, but just to improve and to try to post the fastest time ever posted.

"Not in expectation of a reward" ...yeah right! Expectation of a reward is exactly why all of the ~5 or so players clued in as to the most exploitative way to exploit the racing map to get a bunch of top 100 spots would refuse to explain how they did it. Telling other people how to exploit the map in an ideal way like they do would have ruined "those in the know"'s chances of a reward because then everyone else would be on an even playing field with them and able to compete for the prize.

Not letting others have any chance to get rewards (that they knew they would get instead since they are the only clued in ones who could compete for a prize) is the only reason they refused to let normal players compete on an even playing field by saying what to do.

griffinz · Feb 12, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

We need justifications. Ekelon has justified, but what about the people who are up there on their high score all the time?
Are they cheating or not? If they are, then they should be punished. Somebody has to speak up for this, or the high score board occupiers should justify that he or she is not cheating.
I find it very unfair and frustrating to imagine that they are 'exploiting' to get that high score.
It's either that they have no life, or that they are cheating. This should be justified!

Nor · Feb 12, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19

I can leave gw in peace (not today xD) , i was just SUPER curious what was that trick , i knew it that was someting to do with RAM , omg double RAM trick??
oh well even with my average 300 ping i wouldnt make it u.u.

now i just wanted to ask some1 from anet if the trick with the double RAM isnt a glitch?

cause if you use RAM twice you gotta have 4 seconds of it not like well you know...

anyway im a bit mad cause im sure i woulda make it to top 100 if the scoreboard just let 1 account be there , but oh well at least i keep the moutain of tokens i won u.u and the title :x, it just like dude i got sooo lucky once for having 3 supers after lots of races and couldnt be in the list u.u.

pd: Curse you sayuri for taking over the scoreboard O,..,O

Draikin · Feb 12, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Nor

now i just wanted to ask some1 from anet if the trick with the double RAM isnt a glitch?

I don't see why it's a glitch. Ram boosts you to maximum speed for a brief moment and then drops you back to the speed you were the moment you used it. That means if you're at maximum RRPM the moment you use ram, you're indeed going to drop back to maximum RRPM after it ends. I'm more surprised that Lain could get a 481k time without even knowing this, which goes to show that there really aren't any special skill combos that you absolutely have to know in order to get top times.

Nor · Feb 12, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25

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Originally Posted by Draikin

I don't see why it's a glitch. Ram boosts you to maximum speed for a brief moment and then drops you back to the speed you were the moment you used it. That means if you're at maximum RRPM the moment you use ram, you're indeed going to drop back to maximum RRPM after it ends. I'm more surprised that Lain could get a 481k time without even knowing this, which goes to show that there really aren't any special skill combos that you absolutely have to know in order to get top times.

the trick is about ur ram starts coming off slowly not at the 2 seconds , and for lain well idk , i just think that this didnt had to much complexity for bout using the right item at the right time , you know 20 seconds of gap for the average 440k racer is alot!.

oh well maybe its like mario kart that with the "EEEeees" you got speed boost or diddy kong racing that for putting breaks just b4 a yellow arrow gave u better boost , does kind of secret tricks ><, seeing that the races was kinda those games they took the tricky part from them too ><

CLS · Feb 12, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

First, I treat cheating like stealing, I need to see it before I openly say someone is. The difference in some scores in the list could be hinky but that isn't enough. (to me) Nothing wrong with people asking to see a vid or such from those they claim are, but that's asking them to prove they didn't do anything wrong without proving they did. Not providing that doesn't on it's own mean you're guilty. However, if you have no way to show proof like a vid what is that side to do... I agree with an observer mode and let people go from there(not to mention it will give me something to watch when I finally get to the point where I'm lucky/unlucky farming). Put that in, take out the /report as it's not working and fix that listing so no one feels shafted. Yeah I was also someone who was on the top 100 last year and was proud of that, till multiple listings got me rubbed off. Just hope they do something as I've noticed it's one of the fue places I can escape that stupid gold bot during events.

MarlinBackna · Feb 12, 2008, 04:47 AM // 04:47

I tried so hard to get into the Top 100....I was close for I had a time of 469k or so, but that was after the list was only 470k. w/e....I had fun. I just really wanted me that mini. I was able to consistently win, and began to formulate my strategy better, but I still have a long way to go. Good job, winners.
BTW, "cheating" is almost impossible in GW. The only "cheats" that have arisen were due to bugs in the game that were exploited (aka duping, secret dev outpost etc)... my 2 cents.

¿Evan¿ · Feb 12, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by CLS

First, I treat cheating like stealing, I need to see it before I openly say someone is. The difference in some scores in the list could be hinky but that isn't enough. (to me) Nothing wrong with people asking to see a vid or such from those they claim are, but that's asking them to prove they didn't do anything wrong without proving they did. Not providing that doesn't on it's own mean you're guilty. However, if you have no way to show proof like a vid what is that side to do... I agree with an observer mode and let people go from there(not to mention it will give me something to watch when I finally get to the point where I'm lucky/unlucky farming). Put that in, take out the /report as it's not working and fix that listing so no one feels shafted. Yeah I was also someone who was on the top 100 last year and was proud of that, till multiple listings got me rubbed off. Just hope they do something as I've noticed tit's one of the fue places I can escape that stupid gold bot during events.

All observer mode would do is make it 100% luck because everyone would be using the exact same strategy.

Freeze_XJ · Feb 12, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Still, it'd help me understand where to use my RAM

I got some parts right, but as long as i get KDed at the start, (lag...), i can forget it, cause that costs some seconds.

I'm not saying anyone is cheating, but i do guess that the top-100 consists merely of US-residents. Why? They have lowest lag

The server is in Texas, which means that my bits n bytes have to travel a nice 20K miles before they reach me, and have to pass some more (crowded) switches too. Pings of >300 are not unusual, and if you add some rubberbanding to that, your delay gets as high as 20 seconds. (it's lovely to race down the track with a SRB, only to find out you were stuck behind one of those cows you passed 2 seconds ago. 5 seconds SRB wasted + 5 seconds delay). Still, there's a lot i should improve, but i'm a slow learner

Next time more luck...

Lain Akazukin · Feb 12, 2008, 11:35 AM // 11:35

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Originally Posted by Draikin

I don't see why it's a glitch. Ram boosts you to maximum speed for a brief moment and then drops you back to the speed you were the moment you used it. That means if you're at maximum RRPM the moment you use ram, you're indeed going to drop back to maximum RRPM after it ends. I'm more surprised that Lain could get a 481k time without even knowing this, which goes to show that there really aren't any special skill combos that you absolutely have to know in order to get top times.

Well I did know Ram would go to max RRPM for a moment and then drop back to the way it was and I used this knowledge to my advantage ofcourse, but never did I actually think of using two Rams in rapid succession to gain full speed and stay at that speed for a while. I do think this helps in getting good times more consistently and might explain why Sayuri used a completely different strategy from most of us that uses this sweet combo at maximum effectiveness. My own 481k time was reached by getting exactly what I had been waiting for, a SRB on the first box and an echo at the first water boxes. I also picked up two more boxes after this but no echo or SRB sadly or I might have even reached a 482k+ time.

Draikin · Feb 12, 2008, 12:28 PM // 12:28

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Originally Posted by Lain Akazukin

My own 481k time was reached by getting exactly what I had been waiting for, a SRB on the first box and an echo at the first water boxes. I also picked up two more boxes after this but no echo or SRB sadly or I might have even reached a 482k+ time.

I have to admit I have no idea how you ever managed to get past the last two gates without slowing down, especially without using double ram at one of those gates. I've been in a race with someone getting echo + srb at the lake, using double ram and then getting another srb before the 5th gate and he got 478k which was enough for a top 100 time. If you can get 481k with only echo + srb, I think the top players might be able to get a 485k+ score if they get really lucky.

Lady Yuna · Feb 13, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

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Originally Posted by Draikin

I have to admit I have no idea how you ever managed to get past the last two gates without slowing down, especially without using double ram at one of those gates. I've been in a race with someone getting echo + srb at the lake, using double ram and then getting another srb before the 5th gate and he got 478k which was enough for a top 100 time. If you can get 481k with only echo + srb, I think the top players might be able to get a 485k+ score if they get really lucky.

That is the hard part, REALLY LUCKY. Not everyone gets 480k+ time on their first tries, and you have to spend ALOT of time to get that lucky 485k+ time.

Ekelon · Feb 13, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34

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Originally Posted by Draikin

I have to admit I have no idea how you ever managed to get past the last two gates without slowing down, especially without using double ram at one of those gates. I've been in a race with someone getting echo + srb at the lake, using double ram and then getting another srb before the 5th gate and he got 478k which was enough for a top 100 time. If you can get 481k with only echo + srb, I think the top players might be able to get a 485k+ score if they get really lucky.

It's not possible to get a 485k+ time period if you only get Echo SRB at first two boxes. It is possible, however to stay above 80% through the whole race (even at the beach). You just have to ram and dash correctly after you use your SRB's to stay up. I have my own way of doing it and I'm sure others have their ways. I got jipped out of like 10ish 478k+ times last weekend though cuz I always rubberband back at the STUPID SPIRAL! The highest possible time with Echo SRB is roughly 483k flat, which yuri came really close to. You have to make it to the first gate at 17.8 seconds and the lake at around 37.5 seconds (which is basically perfect) to get that top score.